The gentlebirth.org website is provided courtesy of
Ronnie Falcao, LM MS, a homebirth midwife in Mountain View, CA
Do you have questions about pregnancy and childbirth? Henci Goer is a master
in her knowledge and analysis of the available research.
The Childbirth U website will teach pregnant women best care practices by putting the obstetric research at their fingertips--founded by author Henci Goer.
From Calling to
Inc. - A Survival Guide for Midwives - An online booklet
state-by-state resources section in the sidebar.
How to Ace
Deposition to Help Win Your Malpractice Trial - The way you
your deposition, the way you prepare, and how you behave can play
role in whether you win or lose your malpractice case.
Always speak about your professional
work as legal - Whether or not you are a licensed midwife,
please, please do not EVER say that what you/we are doing is
any of it, not anytime, if it can be read or overheard, i.e. in
Bill of Rights by Wide Margin - July, 2001 [Medscape
registration is free]
FindLaw has an interesting article on Horizontal
Competitors, also called price fixing.
Online lawyer - law office
by Katie Granju - From Minnesota Parent, October 1997
A must-read article for anyone trying to understand why the healthcare system in the U.S. continues to snub the midwifery model, despite reduced Cesareans, proven safety, and lower costs.
Freedom Coalition (CHFC) sponsored a law that recognizes
the professional legitimacy of alternative and complementary
practitioners and healers allowing them, for the first time, to be
to legally provide and advertise their services in California.
The Intersection of
and The Law - Blawg Review #158 - Monday, May 05, 2008 on
of International Midwifery Day.
See also: Money and Paperwork
I was attending a seminar on "Midwifery on the Web 2.0", and we
client privacy. She said that her own personal litmus test
she be able to identify herself". She also said that some
midwives ask their clients if they can share anonymous stories on
or facebook. Good idea!
Center [Medscape registration is free]
pages have some good sample forms for HIPAA compliance.
Internet Use in the
The webcast is approximately 60 minutes long consisting of the
and accompanying slides.- a CME course with info about HIPAA
and Public Health - Guidance from CDC and the U.S. Department
of Health and Human Services
Rules - February 20, 2001 - from the Dept. of Health and
Their SAMPLE BUSINESS ASSOCIATE CONTRACT PROVISIONS
Their FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions and Answers, including "Generally, what does the HIPAA Privacy Rule require the average provider or health plan to do?"
in-depth Office of HIPAA Implementation (CalOHI) web site.
about California and federal legislation and regulations,
California State laws by HIPAA and timelines that apply to HIPAA
subjects, such as privacy. Contains a report to the California
on the impact of HIPAA on California State departments, as well as
samples of templates, contracts, forms, sample implementation
Of particular value:
HIPAA 101 - Basic information
HIPAA Compliance for the Provider - from the Medicaid site
CAL HIPAA - A fee basied
about HIPAA, the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability
strict, far-reaching requirements in 2002/2003 for an
Million American health care providers to insure
confidentiality and privacy of patient information.
The Midwife's Billing Service is offering a booklet (18 pages),
distills the information that is most helpful to midwife
(You can order it at 978-544-3551)
The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) has specific regulations for hospitals relative to women in active labor. The purpose of these federal regulations is to ensure that patients with medical emergencies, including women in labor, are not denied treatment based on any reason other than those that reflect the hospital's capacity to examine, conduct tests, and treat the emergency condition.
All women in true labor are considered to have an emergency medical condition, and are therefore unstable. "Labor" is defined under EMTALA as the process of "childbirth beginning with the latent or early phase of labor and continuing through the delivery of the placenta."[1,5] The presence of an emergency medical condition triggers all of the obligations of EMTALA.
This is taken from the Winter 2006 - Number 76 issue of Midwifery Today:
"The federal Emergency Treatment and Advanced Labor Act (EMTALA) requires hospitals to admit women in active labor and to abide by their treatment wishes until the baby and placenta are delivered. The act was originally passed to prevent hospitals from "dumping" patients who can't pay, but its since been applied in all sorts of other ways and includes specific provisions that apply to laboring women.
The attorneys we've consulted on the VBAC ban issue have told us that hospitals are much more afraid of being found in violation of EMTALA than they are of malpractice suits because the act is routinely enforced and each violation subjects them to fines between $50,000 and $100,000.
I can't emphasize enough the importance to individuals who may find themselves in this situation of memorizing phrases such as "It's a violation of my rights under EMTALA to force me to undergo a cesarean," or "I'm invoking my right under EMTALA to refuse a, b, c." Whether the hospital in question says it bans VBACs is unimportant; according to EMTALA, you have the right to be admitted to a hospital once you're in active labor and, once admitted, you have the right to refuse any recommended treatment. You can also remind them that VBAC isn't a treatment, it's the natural culmination of a normal physiological process. Cesareans are the treatment.
Also, it's helpful to know that EMTALA begins to apply once you are anywhere within 250 feet of a hospital; you don't have to be in the emergency room. You can be standing in the hospital parking lot, and if they so much as touch you against your express consent, they are in violation of EMTALA. For anyone interested in reading more, we've compiled a legal primer on the rights of pregnant women at http:
Editor's Note: To learn more about this important subject, go to http: . There you will find frequently asked questions (FAQ), as well as links to the statue and case law."
Faith Gibson's Wealth of
especially regarding Religious Practitioners. Exemption for
Practitioner - California Article 24, 1917 Exempt section 2063.
Informed Consent or Refusal from childbirthconnection.org
advice: Should you take no for an answer? - Free CMEs
- This course will discuss the medicolegal risks to the physician,
and hospitals associated with a patient leaving against medical
(AMA) and provide strategies to prevent patients from leaving.
Practices and Views of Investigators in a Multinational
Trial [9/27/05 - Medscape registration is free]
MIDIRS offers Informed
can be a good source for patient education pamphlets aimed at good
risks of childbirth on consent forms [August 09, 2004]
- Seven Seattle obstetricians are drafting a consent form for
patients, spelling out in graphic terms the dangers their babies
into the world, including death, "permanent severe brain damage"
I wasn't sure whether to include this in the subsection on "Informed Consent" or "Lack of Informed Consent".
Getting a stubborn patient to say Yes - an article written by and for OBs about how to coerce laboring women to agree to routine treatment.
This is the actual practice of the theory expounded in Patient
the Maternal-Fetal Relationship.
(2) The physician's duty is to provide appropriate information, such that the pregnant woman may make an informed and thoughtful decision, not to dictate the woman's decision.
(3) A physician should not be liable for honoring a pregnant woman's informed refusal of medical treatment designed to benefit the fetus.
(4) Criminal sanctions or civil liability for harmful behavior by the pregnant woman toward her fetus are inappropriate.
(5) Pregnant substance abusers should be provided with rehabilitative treatment appropriate to their specific physiological and psychological needs.
(6) To minimize the risk of legal action by a pregnant patient or an injured fetus, the physician should document medical recommendations made including the consequences of failure to comply with the physician's recommendation. (BOT Rep. OO, A-90; Reaffirmed: Sunset Report, I-00)
[From the AMA Guidelines.]
Foundations of the Euphemisms that Bind our Times - Words are used
to control pregnant women: "evidence based practice", "woman
"choices in childbirth", "informed consent"- these terms mean
medical application can be so ruthless. [As of spring, 2002,
BirthLove site is by subscription only - it's well worth the $10
fee; you can get a "sampler" by reading BirthLove's
Top Twenty- For Free!.]
[Ed: birthlove.com is not available at this time.]
by Technology, Marketing Pressures [Medscape registration
Mandating Patient Empowerment and Medical Accountability
- this is well worth reading for anyone who values the concept of
informed consent or informed choice.
I don't know about c/s situations, but I do know that any medical
that a person says "I do not consent to _______." in Texas is
assault if the provider does the procedure in spite of the
It's a great sentence to teach moms about episiotomies.
ICEA Statement on Informed Consent
Jude Stensland's collection of Consent
other information sheets
on Informed Consent for Special Circumstances
Here are 3 "Special Circumstances" informed consent documents for home-based care and/or refusal of customary obstetrical protocols for VBAC, Twins, Macrosomia and her general page on Informed Consent
set of Informed Choice leaflets from the folks at MIDIRS
(Midwives Information and Resource Service)---- each
key decisions facing expectant mothers during pregnancy and is
to assist them in making informed choices. Vitamin K,
Ultrasound, Home, Hospital or Birth Center, VBAC, Breech.
Regarding those universal consent forms hospitals typically use,
Blanket consents (I consent to everything) and blanket releases (I release everyone from liability) are traditionally disregarded by the courts. They may be seen as an effort to misinform or deceive the client.Jensen & Bobak, Maternity & Gynecologic Care, 5th Ed, page 77.
Consent may be given or withdrawn at any time, either verbally or orally. You can sign a consent for episiotomy on admittance but when the time comes if you say no don't cut me and the doctor still does, that is tort battery. MGC continues on the same page:
Client's refusal should be carefully documented and thereafter respected.This is one of my favorite topics, it always generates excitement when couples learn that they can refuse a treatment. I do, however, tell them that flat out refusal and invocation of these legal rights by threat to the medical staff is a powerful weapon best used only in extreme cases. You catch more bees with honey than vinegar!
My psychiatrist husband (director of a state psychiatric hospital) reminds me that only the court can determine competency in the U.S. Physicians have no legal right to do so. Patients are presumed competent unless an interested party (usually the family, sometimes law enforcement, less often the hospital or physician) petitions the court and a judge rules the patient is not competent.
Any time a physician or hospital staff performs any procedure on any patient without the patient's consent (or the parent or guardian's consent in the case of a minor or incompetent adult), battery has been committed. Battery is a tort, but is an intentional tort not covered by most malpractice policies. It does not require financial damages as a medical malpractice (negligence) tort does.
So, I'd be careful about doing anything without consent, even if you think the patient needs it, and I don't use blanket consents to treatment. There's not a lot of money in battery lawsuits for attorneys, but some are noticing that since the malpractice policy doesn't cover it, physicians are more likely to settle quickly, so there's potentially less work for the attorney.
I guess my health law and patient's rights classes at the school
public health impressed me.
But, just so everyone knows, if you do this, the nurses are
by law in some states to inform Childrens' Services. And, if
get out of the hospital before they arrive, they will call or show
your home and put you through a thorough investigation. This
to my mother with her 3rd child (taken to hospital for jaundice
homebirth) and it was a threat made to me when I said I would
2nd son out AMA if they didn't stop trying to replace his
not something to be afraid of, per se, just be aware that it could
i would like to relate an incident that happened in a hospital that was not related to birthing. my son when he was little had moderately severe asthma. he was admitted to the hospital on one occasion for treatment. they had to monitor the levels of the medication in his system, which required drawing blood. he was only 6. one lab tech decided she was going to take the blood while he was asleep. i told her to wait until he woke up. she said no. i said you WILL wait. she started to do it anyway- i called the nurse. before the nurse got there, my son was screaming at the top of his lungs and so was i (how would you like to wake up that way!!!). the only way i could have stopped her was by physical force. and i guess i could not believe she was really doing it when i had explicitly told her NO!! this officious little snot of a lab tech defended herself by claiming she had a schedule to follow. the nurse was appalled. we did not see that little snot for the rest of his stay. one of the peds nurses did the rest of his blood draws-WHEN HE WAS AWAKE!!! grrrr.....
i guess my point is, some hospital personnel will have a
taking NO for an answer, so we need to be prepared to fight if we
Do we have a right to get up and walk out of the hospital during
after we admitted to the L & D? Is it legal to do that? Will
arrest us if we do that? Do we have a right to go to the nursery
up our baby and walk out of the hospital without signing the
paper? Is it legal to do that? Will the guard arrest us if we do
I find it disturbing that culturally we give so much power to the medical system.
Why would it ever be illegal to leave the hospital? You're not supposed to be under house arrest. You're not supposed to be a prisoner of the state.
In theory, doing something to your body against your will is battery, and trying to hold you against your will is kidnapping.
You can even decline any and all procedures offered, even a cesarean. If they do a cesarean against your will, you have a whopping big lawsuit on your hands. Why do you think they're always shoving consent forms into your face? I know it seems like a formality, as if they would do whatever they wanted anyway, and it's just a nicety for them to pretend that they're carrying out your wishes, but that's how it's supposed to be.
It bothers me when hospitals rob patients of their individual
First, they're getting court orders to perform cesareans, then
putting pregnant women in jail because their behavior might affect
baby. How long will it be before they seek court orders
who don't eat their vegetables? The only thing holding them
is the numbers of such women, not the principles involved.
One thing I learned when my instructions concerning the baby were not followed despite having watched the document being stapled to my file is that the baby gets a file of his own and your instructions will not necessarily be transferred to his file. So, if you have birth instructions and post-birth/baby instructions, make sure to have two separate documents and be sure your support person gets the baby's document into the baby's file and still monitors staff to make sure your instructions are followed.
After baby #1, my husband and I have an understanding that no matter what is happening with me, he is to stay with the baby. Despite my express written instructions (for the child of two lawyers no less!), the nurse never looked at the document and my husband had to stop her from putting antibiotic cream in his eyes. I feel sure he will have to do it this time as well. The hospital registration documents included a hep b consent form. I didn't just check "No" and sign - I added an addendum that any injection given to the child without the informed consent of the parents would be deemed a battery and would be the subject of legal action.
You can just never be too loud that you don't want your birth
your baby's treatment to be done with everyone on auto pilot.
get short shrift - OB and lawyer get court order to
force a woman to submit to a cesarean against her will.
[July 20, 2001 at Memorial Hospital in Jacksonville, FL. OB: Neil Sager; Lawyer: Harry Shorstein, state attorney for Duval County.]
Case on Court-Ordered Bed Rest Highlights Reproductive Rights Concerns for Pregnant Women (1/13/10 about Florida, March, 2009)
Rest a Crime? By LISA BELKIN(1/12/10 about Florida, March,
Midwives can't use forceps or vacuums, or perform intubations
it's not in their scopes of practice. Heaven help any licensed or
midwife who attempts these procedures and causes an injury. Taking
skills class can get you a certificate at least.
I was told for someone who does not intubate at least twice a
it is illegal to do so. I have had babies who needed
however the paramedics did the intubating. Forceps? My neck
be on the chopping block for that one.
Our office has 4 pre-printed forms, on 8 1/2" by 5 1/2" (1/2 of sheet of standard typing paper); each of these has our office letterhead across the top, so it looks "official", and is on NCR paper; we give the client the original and keep the copy in her chart.
All the forms have a space for the date at the top, and our signature at the bottom. The 4 forms are:
Rights” in Childbirth? By Susan Hodges [Citizens for
News Fall 2008]
Pregnant Woman Ordered To Undergo Involuntary Medical Treatment - In an amicus brief filed today, the ACLU took on the State of Florida's decision to order a pregnant woman to remain hospitalized indefinitely, and against her will. Samantha Burton, already a mother of two children, developed complications in her third pregnancy.
New York - Class Action Suit for
Abby Odam and Birthing Rights in
Even if home-births ( in low risk women ) were less safe than hospital births ( which they aren't ! ) then it is still a matter of choice.
As a gynaecologist I see lots of women with heavy periods despite
treatment. Many of them opt for surgical treatment - rather than
option of putting up with the nuisance until the menopause. Now
known that just occasionally a woman dies after routine gynae
very rare fortunately ). No-one ever dies from heavy periods.
these women ( and their ob/gyns ) realise that avoiding surgery
overwhelmingly the safer option ? Actually the women and their MDs
make an informed choice about quality of life - and there's
with that - no matter what the context.
There are some people that have some serious concerns about the recent decision in CA about midwifery. There is a major distinction between misdemeanors and felonies in the CA law. If anyone dies during the commission of a felony, whether the deceased is called the victim, a bystander or even a perpetrator, whoever is convicted of that felony is also guilty of felony murder.
The constitution of the United States requires laws to be made in the Congress. The Court's function is to interpret these laws. California has historically used the courts to usurp the powers of Congress by making law through judgments or precedents.
Midwives be advised regardless of the recent licensing laws in the state of California, this recent court decision has made the practice of midwifery illegal. It is now more illegal then it was before.
Discussion of Birthing Rights
liability in obstetrics By Gary Ventolini, MD,
S. Croom, MD, and William W. Hurd, MD
Lawsuits and Complaints
Caesarean Birth Verdict
A jury has awarded more than $1.5 million to a woman who sued her doctors, claiming that the unnecessarily delivered her child by caesarean section.
The verdict is unusual, lawyers say, because while malpractice cases are often filed in cases in which a mother or child is injured because doctors failed to do caesarean surgery, patients rarely sue on the grounds that a caesarean wasn't necessary.
In the case, which was filed in Cambridge, Mass., the woman, Mary
developed an intestinal illness which she said was triggered by
delivery. Her doctors, Stanley Stahler and Ruben Gheridian, said
had consented to the procedure.
Suffering, not malpractice, guides medical
Case Dismissed - Hopes for Appeal
Don't you realize that all of us live in the daily fear of getting sued or arrested for just trying to do a good job?It bothers me to hear about any midwife having legal problems.
But it bothers me even more to think that it's possible that a midwife might actually have done the things the they are alleging. And it's somewhat unsettling to realize that some people think they shouldn't make a fuss about their perception that they were grossly mistreated and have suffered real damages from unnecessary surgery.
I spend a great deal of time on lists run by/for birthing parents - the ICAN list and the homebirth list.
There are a lot of unhappy folks out there, and a reasonable share of them have complaints about midwives. Appalling as it seems, there do appear to be midwives who do not always provide the best possible level of care.
It really isn't enough just to try to do a good job, in the sense of wanting the best for the clients. We actually have to come through anddo a good job, even when that means providing a referral or calling in backup.
I would like to think that all midwives come from a place of good heart about their work and are dedicated to providing the best possible care for the families they serve. And the times when I see midwives fall short of their own objectives are usually times when the midwife ran short on time and/or energy.
It sounds as if this might be what happened in the their case; a midwife with an unreasonable case load behaving in ways that maybe aren't in the clients' best interests.
Is it really such a bad thing for each of us to take this opportunity for some introspection?
Are you making commitments you can't keep? Do you have good midwife backup? Do you reduce your caseloads when a partner is on vacation? If not, do you let your clients know that this may compromise their care? Do you solicit feedback from clients after their last appointment or do you just assume that everything must be fine if they didn't complain?
And, most importantly of all, are you being absolutely honest with your clients about what kind of care you are offering?
I have absolute tolerance for any and all styles of midwifery practice that are made clear to the clients.
I won't criticize a midwife who tells her clients at 40 weeks that they either have to agree to a pit induction or have their care transferred to an OB, as long as this possibility was made clear to the clients.
And I won't criticize a midwife who doesn't try to change a posterior or asynclitic head, as long as she makes her style of practice clear to the clients beforehand.
I don't care whether a midwife goes strictly by the book or hasn't cracked a book in years, as long as this is made clear to her clients.
But it galls me that there are midwives who hide behind the veil of purity and expect that having answered the sacred call of midwifery somehow puts them on a pedestal above criticism, regardless of how they may have misrepresented the kind of care their clients can expect.
I suggest that you look within and relax and be thankful that you have a baby to love and nurture (you don't write much about that) and redirect your passion.This sounds like a rather sweeping assertion that anybody who survives a birth with a live baby should have no complaints. Yes, it could have been worse, but it could also have been a whole lot better.
Some of this week's discussion on the ICAN list has been about the very deep loss that they feel around their birth experiences, "even with a live baby". Many of them feel deeply wronged, and I agree that most of them received lousy care and have a lot to be angry and sad about. I'm one of those who happen to think that they have an obligation to themselves and to their families to process these feelings, rather than simply "getting on with their lives", which really means suppressing their feelings.
Hearing you telling them to put it behind them sounds a little like telling parents who've lost a baby that they should be happy because they still have healthy ones at home and/or can still have more babies.
Gosh, why is it so hard to accept that some people have really horrible birth experiences, and some of the caregivers involved might have been midwives?
There have been times when I have not provided the best possible care to my clients. Given that I'm a relatively new midwife, these have been from lack of experience rather than lack of time or energy. But I am crystal clear with prospective clients about my training and experience, and I tell them that I cannot "play the edge" the way a more experienced midwife might. And I have done my share of apologizing to clients when I've been wrong.
I have never knowingly lied to clients to CMA, and I hope and pray that Grace will provide me with the strength to keep that true.
And if the fear of betraying my own integrity and my very serious obligations to my clients isn't enough to make me do my very best, then let it be the fear of arrests and lawsuits.
Any attack on ANY midwife is an attack against ALL of us and we cannot pass judgment on her actions as we WERE NOT THERE.I agree that we cannot pass judgment on a particular case about which we do not know the facts.
But I do not believe that I have a responsibility to provide blanket support for everything that is said and done by someone just because she is a midwife. In fact, I believe that I have an obligation to condemn mistreatment by any care provider, regardless of what they call themselves. And I hereby openly condemn any care provider who recommends unnecessary surgery simply because they do not have the time, energy or patience for the situation at hand. This is no more acceptable from a midwife who is exhausted than from an obstetrician who wants to make his tee-time, although it may be more forgivable.
We, the midwives, are supposed to be serving them, not the other
I know how easy it is to 'fall into planning and arranging care
the schedule-of docs, nurses, hospital, myself'. I did that soon
getting out of school, and when i became conscious of it I was so
cuz I had previously consciously thought i would never do that.
You do what is best for the patient, not what you think will look
to a plantiff's attorney. If you think something is best for the
and you delay because of malpractice concerns, then you are acting
your own interests and against the patient's interests, and the
for that is "unethical."
Method (from The Clinical Laboratory Improvement Act (CLIA)
the Physician's Office Laboratory: Introduction)
List - updated 02/02/2000 - from the Public
Health Practice Program Office at the CDC
CLIA is Clinical Laboratory Improvement Act. Each medical facility of any kind that does any blood or urine testing is supposed to be listed with CLIA. The purpose of CLIA is to keep labs on the up and up. You have to be trained to run tests properly and you have to have a medical director who oversees the operation of laboratory testing. If you think about this, it is a good idea. Suppose a docs office (or one of the rich midwives!!!) hires some teenager to come in and run their gestational diabetes testing for them. They are shown the machine and told here's the book, do the testing. This kids messes up and everyone has GD and is treated with insulin. This happened here in Arkansas at the HD with hemoglobin testing with the hemoglobinometer. The nurse got a 9 on a kid's Hg and sent her to the doc. The doc sent the kids back with a 14. They drew blood and the Hg was 14. A real embarrassment to the HD and a possibility for suit.
Back to the topic at hand. So the government comes up with this CLIA thing and here in Arkansas the Health Department sent out a letter to all the midwives saying that we were to be CLIA certified also. And yes, you could get into trouble if you aren't registered with the government. But how are they going to find you.
I've had a CLIA certificate for about 5 years now.
All the tests that we actually run are called "waived tests". Only labs or big offices actually do any of their own testing any more. Collecting the specimen and sending it to the lab does not count. Running the test is what is monitored.
Waived tests include urinalysis for the things we check for, Hg, Bg, etc. Any dip stick tests and any machines that spit out the answer. With the hemoglobinometer, you are making a judgment call and thus they think it is not a waived test. The Hemacue since it gives you the results like the Accucheck does is considered waived. No room for human error, supposedly.
But the problem is that the Hemacue as I understand it costs about $600 or something like that. Enough that I never checked into it. My hemoglobinometer may not be that accurate but I use it anyway.
I would think that all state licensed midwives would all have to have a CLIA certificate. It basically states that you do not run other tests besides the waived tests. To get a certificate to run higher classed tests can cost up to $10,000.
I think the next level up from waived tests costs $1000. These
for every 2 years.
Any time you do any laboratory testing of any kind you are supposed to be registered with CLIA. That includes urinalysis such as we do. It also includes Hg, Bg, etc. These are all waived tests. Don't require too much expertise.
To do microscope tests, other more specialized, you are supposed
be properly trained so as to get accurate results. CLIA was begun
laboratories so as to get accuracy in testing. But CLIA has made
offices have to stop doing testing even. There are so many
and inspections to deal with. And the fee for advanced testing can
into the tens of thousands. I pay $100 every two years to have a
for the easy testing.
May 11, 2011 — In a joint statement, the American College of Nurse-Midwives (ACNM) and the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) called for evidenced-based practice and greater cooperation between obstetrician-gynecologists and certified nurse-midwives/certified midwives.
How have you been able to initially contact and TALK to OB/GYN's about being your consulting/collaborating physicians? And how have you formalized that agreement?
My dilemma is two-fold. I am a new graduate nurse -midwife and in my state- Arizona- I need to have a physician listed on my application for a state license as my "official" collaborating physician. I have sent out resumes (Unsolicited "cold calls") to every OB in the area who I would be willing to work with, and have made follow-up calls with little results. I can't even seem to talk to them on the phone, let alone set a time to meet with any. They are either out of the office, seeing pts, doing procedures or......you get the picture. I am thinking that the letters and resumes are being screened by the office manager and/or nurses in the office so the docs may not even know about me. I work full time +, and can't afford to sit in offices on the chance that maybe I can have an impromptu meeting- plus it would be impractical....
Ask them out to lunch
Would someone please clarify the legal authority under which a
is licensed to practice without medically approved protocol and
back-up in any of the states in the U.S.? This assumes that there
relationship that involves charges for services.
In Maine, the Medical Practice Act specifically excludes vaginal
from being defined as a medical procedure. There are both nurse
and lay midwives practicing throughout the state doing home
We have a fairly cordial relationship with the lay midwife in our
because we decided long ago that an adversarial relationship would
interfere with care of her patients who needed hospitalization. I
heard of any breech home births in our area but I do know of
When I mentioned to the midwife that I didn't consider VBACs low
suitable for home delivery she sent me the A.C.O.G. literature
its safety. Hoisted by my own petard!
My partner and I are the only CNMs doing homebirths in this state. Both of us were direct-entry midwives before becoming CNMs. So we both were ingrained in OOH birthing. I have a birth ctr, so we do birth ctr and home births. Contacted, met with a group of OBs about being our "back-ups". We asked for a lot at the beginning -- i.e. chart review, etc. Worked out what they were willing to do after they consulted with their malpractice insurance co. and attorney. What we ended up with in writing is a letter stating they will accept our clients if transferred to the hospital. Not much different than they do for any other walk-in. That's what we have in writing, and what I use whenever written confirmation of back-up is needed.
In reality, these 4-5 OBs have been very helpful and respectful r/t consultations, referrals, transports, etc. I guess that they just can't have a formal, written agreement d/t liability issues. But they know what we had wanted and asked for at the beginning -- more of their input towards our practice (which we didn't necessarily truly want, but showed our intent to work with them). One of these OBs is always on call, so have had no problem with transports, etc. Anchorage is overrun with OB practitioners -- OBs, CNMs, DEMs, perinatologists. So perhaps they just want our business, that's okay. This group has 5 CNMs working with them so they already are pretty much midwife friendly.
We don't have hospital privileges either at this time. Difficult
find an OB to sign as preceptor for an independent midwife. The
form at both hospitals here state, "I will be totally responsible
CNM morally, ethically, and financially." Hard to even sign such a
for your own kin! Had tried to get the bylaws changed at one of
it was shot down by the perinatologists, OBs. I'm sure a lot of it
of the high competition for clients at this time here -- comes
reduction of income for them if they let those independent
the hospital too!
I think you're right - it IS more difficult to be a CNM in homebirth practice because of physician opposition. We are educated within the medical system and are supposed to function within the medical system, and that works as long as we do what we're told by the powers-that-be. When some of us want to do homebirths, or even independent practice with hospital births, it can get pretty sticky pretty fast.
There are no doctors in this area who will "back" me for doing homebirths, which was a major obstacle at first. I even called the ACNM to find out exactly what it means to have a "arrangement" (or whatever word is used) with physicians - does it have to written, how informal can it be, at what point do I get into trouble, etc. The answer I got is that it depends, but basically there must be some avenue to get more specialized, intensive care for clients who become high-risk. In this area, I know the docs and nurses because I've done hospital births here for seven years prior to starting a homebirth practice. That was a big advantage for me because I knew what they thought:
It may be that this works only because I'm in a smaller town where there are only 6 OB/gyns split between 2 groups/hospitals. All I know is that despite my fears and the dire predictions of others about the possible success of starting my own homebirth practice, I've managed to do it. And I think already having a reputation within the medical community has helped. The docs have lots of liability concerns about being responsible for what I do (which is why I'm no longer employed by them), but seem to have little beef with me doing my own thing (as long as I don't take too many of their clients, I'm sure).
The problem is that I had to relinquish my hospital privileges
I don't have a physician "sponsor" - someday I'll work on changing
bylaws to something more workable for me. I do have outpatient
though, so can order labs, sonos, NSTs, etc.
I don't know that "supervise" is the best word to use, at least
state. In Montana, a CNM is an independent provider. Collaborative
might be a better term to describe the relationship between the
"Supervise" is definitely the word here in California. The laws for CNMs and DEMs both state that the midwife works "under the supervision" of a physician. We dream of being recognized as independent providers.
Actually, we do more than dream, we're trying to change the
of the laws. Our bill got killed last year, but we'll be back!
My partner and I are currently negotiating with a group of OBs to
as our preceptors to obtain hospital privileges. Their
at this time is that they would have to do chart review for
have been backing us up for 4 years on our home and birth ctr
But to sign on the dotted line for privileges is another
In the past they have done backup for nothing, but got all our
to the hospital.
I have a letter from my consulting OB that states that he has
to accept referrals and consultations" from me. It satisfied
requirements. He is only responsible for the actions he
for my actions. Our Family Practice docs essentially have
requirement for OB patients.
Letter to Doctors Requesting Backup
This is a new section - please e-mail me information about your
if it's useful here. Thanks.
California Bill SB255 Fails to Change
Colorado does not require supervision but the instances are
out for when we need to consult. Our
rules are in serious need of updating.
When I had an emergency transport with my first homebirth, I was just stuck with the doctor on call because according to law my midwife has to transfer me to the nearest hospital capable of handling my "emergency" so her back-up doctor didn't really do me any good.
My midwife does have an MD who is her back-up, but unfortunately,
practices in a town not very convenient to most of us in the
so although she can consult with him about various things, he
be "available" to take over a delivery that had to be transferred,
to his location/hospital privileges being not the "nearest."
After I transported a VBAC client into the local hospital, the
OB took me aside and raked me over the coals. He said if he
heard of me doing another VBAC he would put me in jail. He
was supportive of homebirth and that he would even do it himself
could. He said 99% of women are safe to birth at home, then
said that I could do a 2nd or 3rd etc. VBAC, but not a
He said he would find me- I couldn't hide.
I would send him a letter confirming that was what you heard of
conversation. I would have a place for him to sign his name
return the letter to you for your records. I would consult a
for harassment and notify him that he is no longer allowed to
you for being a good and caring citizen. Don't let some
VIOLENT man prevent you from doing what you know in your heart is
How does an independent practitioner actually go about obtaining
Here in Oregon a CNM calls the medical staff office of the
and requests an application. The response will include all
These may include your CV, evidence of malpractice insurance, a
affiliation with an OB/Gyn for high risk consultation and surgical
letters of reference. Then the application and documentation
go through all the hospital committees which usually only meet
so the process will take at least about 6 weeks. Unless this
totally new entity at the hospital. In our case it took 10
to change the necessary policies in regard to affiliate medical
If your hospital has nurse anesthetists with privileges check out
and regs that apply to them. Medical Staff Office is the
have friends and start investigating. There is a hospital
Eugene that restrains the trade of midwifery practice by requiring
by physician or hospital to be on staff. Be persistent,
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You need to be careful with this-make sure you will still be
if you don't have 'physician supervision.'? When I spoke to
insurance agent at a midwifery conference (Rick Linsey with CIS),
they would cover us as long as we practiced by our licensing
I told him the law states we must have physician
I told him even if we do have a physician who will take our
we don't all have written back up agreements. He said he
into it and never got back to me. I'm sure they will take
but make sure they will actually pay for a claim or represent you
don't have 'proper' backup agreements.
Medical Malpractice - A nice overview of the issues
from The American Voice 2004
American College of Domiciliary Midwives - Community
Malpractice Insurance Consortium
Courts Rule Against Increased Malpractice
OBs working with Midwives
Why Midwives Don't Get Sued
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we were a safe risk :-)
Has anyone practiced bare and then obtained insurance? I am
into a problem with my consulting physician's insurance company
unwillingness to issue her vicarious liability because of a
if there is a claim made from the time I was bare.
Why is the doc getting vicarious liability? Has new info come out
Susan Jenkins the ACNM lawyer wrote the article "the myth of
Her carrier is requiring that she have vicarious liability in
for me to work for her. They will not issue it unless I can get
for my practice during the time I was bare (1985-1998). Of course,
company wants to provide coverage retroactively #1, and #2, I was
midwife not a CNM, and there was no coverage available. (I have
CNM for 6 months). Her company is claiming that even if they are
me, if I am working for her and someone I delivered say 8 years
to sue me, she would be liable since I am her employee! Any advice
welcome. They have said they would not issue coverage until the
baby was 21 that I delivered bare. The Doc says, well it's just
unusual situation. I say no, there are hundreds of midwives who
homebirths bare and then been able to go on and work for Dr.'s. So
me. Share your stories. Perhaps they will help the insurance
This really makes no sense. Why would this MD be responsible for births you did before you were involved with each other? I don't see how there would be any way someone could sue you for a birth many years ago and be able to name this MD as anything to do with it! I mean, it seems it would be easy to prove that you had nothing to do with each other at that time.
I was a direct-entry midwife for many years before I became a
None of the OBs that we have talked with have ever mentioned
births prior to when they became involved. We are
a group now. We currently do homebirths. They said
they sign as our preceptors in order to get hospital privileges
up homebirths may be a condition. They never mentioned any
for these past births. We have never had malpractice ins for
only for birth ctr ones (costs twice as much to cover the
Oh this type of coercion makes me so upset! I have a homebirth
and have been working at changing the bylaws at the only hospital
county, it was in the lawyer's hands last I looked at it, and is
or should be by now independent hospital privileges, but I live 40
from the hospital, and they demand within 20 minutes or have
call for you.
I was told by the ACNM Ins co. that a CNM can attend both home
births, but only the hospital births will be covered by the
ins. There is an option through another co that will cover home
but the cost is VERY unreasonable.
CNM's and other practitioners do need malpractice ins to have
privileges, at least in AZ.
Recently I was told you are suppose to ask the caller if they are an investigator or do you work for the health dept? something to that effect- they aren't supposed to lie if asked directly. ( sort of the hooker approach- these older professions you know ; ))
When I practiced illegally I lived in a state where it WAS NOT a felony and no one had ever been convicted. Many of the openly practicing MWs had gotten c&d letters few took it to heart. The state just didn't have the funding nor the volition to get hard core about us. So this is definitely not your situation, if the AMA has targeted your state, they have probably lobbied for some sort of investigative funding... if the labs have cut you off , how about sending away, or a friendly doc, naturopath , chiropractor? If they order labs this is legal for them to do, and you can get a copy.
The way I've seen it done is to figure out what the letter of the
is then figure out what it doesn't include. Practice in the
still could be dangerous but often dependable. What does your
The first rule for apprentices and midwives: DO NOT TALK TO ANY AUTHORITIES! DO NOT EVER AGREE TO AN "INTERVIEW"! DO NOT TALK TO ANY PERSON ABOUT ANY CRIMINAL MATTER WITHOUT ANY ATTORNEY PRESENT!
We've had a few cases over the years in our region. Every single time (to the best of my knowledge), any person who agreed to an "interview" was charged, or "had to" turn evidence through fear of being charged.
Any time an interview was refused...... nuthin' ever happened.
Ya DON'T talk to any government agent when they're going on a fishing expedition!
They can seem so nice and charming and harmless. But that's their
to SEEM to be friendly and to get us to trust them, and to talk to
And anything we say can be twisted into something which harms US!
The hearing was canceled and eventually all the charges were
Encouragement and Moral Support for Midwives Under Siege
Also read What
Trees Have To Do With Peace? - the story of Dr. Wangari
the 2004 Nobel Peace PrizeLaureate.
There's a great article - Midwifery
is not the practice of medicine by Suzanne Hope Suarez, in
Journal of Law and Feminism, Vol 5, No 2, Spring '93.
Paper on the Practice of Midwifery - "The practice of
a distinctly separate profession from the practice of medicine or
About Homebirth Legal Battles
More Legal Strategy
Midwifery Today has
Legal Battles and Birth Politics
A Battle for
and Soul by Carolyne Pion - about Karen Hunter, a Maryland
arrested in 2002 or 2003 for a birth in 1994 and about legal
of Breastfeeding Legislation in the U.S. - a state-by-state
breastfeeding laws in the U.S. from La Leche League.
Text of Adopted Decision in case against California Licensed Midwife Alison Osborn Administrative Law Judge dismissed charges after extensive hearing (August 20, 1999).
Amicus brief filed by California Citizens for Health Freedom
Amicus brief filed by California Citizens for Health Freedom
In Denmark it's any woman's right to give midwife-assisted birth
home. She cannot be refused, irrespective of whether she has
routine datings or not. Midwives/doctors will probably try to
her to go to the hospital - and may also "label" her a high-risk.
woman has the law on her side. The recent 20 years I think, the
rate in DK has been 1-2 %.
Against Midwives - from Sheila
in Washington State (January, 2002)
Nevada (March, 1999)
in North Stafford, Virginia - midwife Cynthia Caillagh (late
Virginia Birthing Freedom
Amy Medwin - North Carolina
Seeking information about maternal death at El Camino Hospital in
View, California in 1997 or 1998, thought to be from a
e-mail any information. Thanks.
MANA's Guide - Direct-Entry Midwifery
Legal Status as of 9/96.
Practice Act of 1993 - Also see Notes
for California Licensed Midwives
- State By State
battles in U.S. Courts.
Homepage (re: 1997 legal situation)
A Mother's Letter to Illinois Gov Edgar
Alliance of New York)
New York Legal Situation
New York - Class Action Suit for
NY Update 5/16/97.
5/31/97 Update on New York Class Action
5/31/97 Update on New York Class Action
- Morning Session
Martha Hughes - Midwife Prosecuted for Breech Death
Beah Haber -
Privileges at Valley Care Center in Pleasanton, California.
Editorial Comment by Ina May Gaskin (1994) about the arrests of Lynn Amin, CNM, Beverley Thorpe, CNM, and Lorri Walker, RNP for their work at their Natural Birthing Services birth center in Southern California.
Abby Odam and Birthing Rights in
California Bill SB255 Fails to Change
to "Collaboration" for CNMs
Midwife Leaves Illinois After Legal
Kansas Court Proclaims DEMs Legal
Entire Ruling of the Kansas Supreme Court
Bloomington Indiana Midwife - Jennifer Williams, CPM
Indiana Midwifery Taskforce
protested [1/16/06] - Indiana has brought felony charges
long-time midwife and CPM Jennifer Williams for practicing
a license and practicing midwifery without a license in Shelby
Indiana. After 17 years of practice without incident, she was
the attention of authorities because of a stillbirth, and after an
was found to have acted appropriately both in the delivery and her
to the emergency. (Please note that the news account
inaccuracies – for one thing, the baby died of asphyxia, ie, was
any cephalhematoma was incidental, and the midwife does not own
used a vacuum extractor.) The parents are completely
Midwifery Persecuted in New York State
in 2005 - A former Mendon (VT) midwife and one of
her students is being sued by a woman who claims that her
son suffered permanent brain damage during birth.
Press Release regarding Citizen Support
Roberta Devers-Scott's Court Statement in
to Misdemeanor Charges 9/23/96
Women In Wisconsin May Lose Civil Rights
Forms in both .pdf format and .doc format, which you
pages has a sample form for "divorcing" a client from your
Terminating a Patient: Is It Time to Part Ways? [09/20/2005] by Deanna R. Willis, MD, MBA; Ann Zerr, MD [Medscape registration is free.]
Sample Termination Letter
When you decide to end your relationship with a patient, inform him or her in writing and send the letter by certified mail, with a return receipt requested. If it's possible to describe the reason for the termination in a brief, clear, objective way, do so in the letter. If not, you might be better off not providing a reason. The patient ought to be aware of the reason as a result of earlier discussions and correspondence. Some malpractice insurance carriers offer sample termination letters, or you can adapt the following sample.
Dear [patient name],
As you know, a good relationship between a physician and his or her patient is essential for quality medical care. There are times when this relationship is no longer effective and the physician finds it necessary to ask the patient to select another physician.
This letter is to inform you that I am no longer willing to be your primary care physician. The reason for this decision is [describe reason briefly, or omit this sentence]. Our office will continue to direct your care for any emergencies that arise over the next 30 days. It is imperative that you select another physician and arrange with our office for your records to be sent to your new physician before [date]. Your insurance plan or the local medical society [insert contact information] will be able to assist you in choosing a new physician.
I sent a pt a divorce letter and a refund check via certified
She knew we were sending her a refund because we spoke with her
prior and told her how much she would receive. She refused the
mail and my question is: What do we do now as far as divorcing her
do we still owe her a refund?
If the letter that is sent via regular mail (be sure to document
you sent these this way when the certified letter was refused)
come back AND when the canceled refund check comes back, you can
assume that she received the letter.
You may want to check with your attorney, but usually, if you
certified and one at the same time, regular mail, it's considered
notice". Put the refused certified receipt, uncashed check
of letter you sent in her file and then forget about it. If
sent one regular mail - go ahead and do it and then honor that
whatever it says.
As far as the refund, was it an overpayment, or were you
because you are divorcing her? An overpayment you still owe,
I never believe in giving money back just to shut people up.
as the letter goes, if certified mail is refused I send the letter
plain envelope with just the street address as a return, so they
know who it is from before the open it. You can't be
they received it, but if it doesn't come back you can be pretty
I would write them a letter telling them, in detail what Midwifery care is all about, i.e.: Shared responsibility, etc., and that since they have not held up to their end of the agreement, that the relationship is terminated. Also be sure to give referrals. I always make sure that I give names and numbers to DEM's, CPM's, CNM's and OB's. This covers some pretty good ground. Here is a sample of something I might send IF I was going to give her ONE MORE CHANCE, which I doubt I would at this point.
I as a midwife believe that prenatal care is an important part of a healthy pregnancy and happy, successful birth experience. Since first meeting you we have only had one prenatal visit which is not adequate for establishing a midwife-client relationship. If I do not hear from you in the next week, I will assume that you have sought care elsewhere.
If however you do wish to continue care with me, the following will be necessary.
A physician may terminate his or her relationship with a patient for any reason including failure to follow physician orders which leads the physicians to believe that this relationship should not continue.
Therefore, we are enclosing your records and advising you to seek alternative care. We will, of course, be available to you if an emergency arises and emergency care remains available through the hospital emergency department. We will terminate any and all further treatment and/or care of you as of <date>.
She is showing great irresponsibility and you will bear the brunt
ANYTHING that goes wrong. Send her a certified, return
letter of release. Include in the letter several alternative
( doctors in the area, county hospital clinics, etc.) and let her
you WILL NOT attend her birth. If she calls you in labor,
her of your letter and call 911 to go to her house. This
you from being accused of abandonment. These cases are NOT
Don't's - an online CEU course.
from Midwifery Today's E-News
Great chapter about Labour Admission and Partogram (Hlth1583) from the British Columbia Reproductive Care Program.
about Shoulder Dystocia is a good case in point lesson about
For the labor/delivery records: I want to know what
client is in and where she is at all times on the chart. I
chart to tell you the exact story of the birth and I do want to
heart tones are q 15-20 minutes during most of active labor and q
during 2nd stage. There is also always a heart tone check
unless baby follows the water out.
The State vs.
A Battle for Body and Soul by Carolyne Pion
California Law - Midwife Payment Through
A: Send a ‘friendly’ letter TIAing whomever to ‘cease and desist’ from making any further libelous/slanderous comments directed toward your professional entity?
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